as i've said, it was a violation of human rights law and sadly so. i disagreed very vigorously with the president on his role. >> host: okay. i've got to defend myself here. it was in "quitting america," and this is what you wrote, mr. robinson. when i was a small boy in grammar class, i developed the: >> guest: that's very true. that's very true. yes, i wrote that, and i felt that way, and i thought everyone did, that before that first impression is overturned by access and knowledge that the faces that seem to deliver certain messages, that faces that have act by lin -- aquiline, straight sort of geometric, slashing exactness to them that give you the impression of precision and rectitude and scientific perfection and all of that. and then there are round faces with soft features that are warm and fuzzy that seem to suggest something else, all of which is totally illogical and makes no sense once you get to know the person behind the faces. but this was a child's, a child's game to see how how ofti could come close to the truth in my reckonings. an